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		<title>WTF is up with Sweden</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The recent history of what has happened at &#8220;the Forsk&#8220;, a hackerspace in Malmö, Sweden before and after the police raid(s). Let&#8217;s start with a timeline to give you a quick round-up of where we are, since unfortunately many articles referred to are written in Swedish. 21-11-2009 Forsk makes public appearance in local newspaper: http://sydsvenskan.se/kultur-och-nojen/article568467/Det-finns-inga-sparrar-allt-gar-att-knacka.html [...]]]></description>
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<p>The recent history of what has happened at &#8220;<a href="http://forskningsavd.se">the Forsk</a>&#8220;, a hackerspace in Malmö, Sweden before and after the police raid(s).<br />
Let&#8217;s start with a timeline to give you a quick round-up of where we are, since unfortunately many articles referred to are written in Swedish.<br />
<strong><br />
</strong></p>
<p><strong>21-11-2009</strong></p>
<p>Forsk makes public appearance in local newspaper:<br />
<a href="http://sydsvenskan.se/kultur-och-nojen/article568467/Det-finns-inga-sparrar-allt-gar-att-knacka.html" target="_blank">http://sydsvenskan.se/kultur-och-nojen/article568467/Det-finns-inga-sparrar-allt-gar-att-knacka.html</a><br />
( Swedish )<br />
<strong><br />
28-11-2009</strong></p>
<p>Police makes a raid against the whole house where the hackerspace<br />
forskningsavdelningen is seated.<br />
This is partly filmed and published live in English</p>
<p><a href="http://bambuser.com/channel/forskningsavd" target="_blank">http://bambuser.com/channel/forskningsavd</a></p>
<p>The raid did not have a search warrant.<br />
All the background can be found here in English</p>
<p><a href="http://hack.org/mc/writings/hackerspace-raided.html" target="_blank">http://hack.org/mc/writings/hackerspace-raided.html</a><br />
<strong><br />
29-11-2009</strong></p>
<p>We made statements in papers and blogs in English<br />
<a href="http://forskningsavd.se/2009/11/29/i-can-haz-moar-bout-teh-reid/" target="_blank">http://forskningsavd.se/2009/11/29/i-can-haz-moar-bout-teh-reid/</a></p>
<p>At the same time, the police made statements about the club below our space in Swedish</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polisen.se/Skane/Aktuellt/Nyheter/Skane/2009/okt-dec/Alkohol-och-slangbomber-beslagtogs-vid-tillslag-i-Malmo/" target="_blank">http://www.polisen.se/Skane/Aktuellt/Nyheter/Skane/2009/okt-dec/Alkohol-och-slangbomber-beslagtogs-vid-tillslag-i-Malmo/</a><br />
<strong><br />
09-12-2009</strong></p>
<p>The prosecutor gave a statement on that we can have our computers returned, since all data has been &#8220;secured&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://sydsvenskan.se/malmo/article591271/Datorer--aterlamnas-br--efter-kopiering-av-data.html" target="_blank">http://sydsvenskan.se/malmo/article591271/Datorer&#8211;aterlamnas-br&#8211;efter-kopiering-av-data.html</a><br />
(Swedish)</p>
<p>At this point (22-01-2010) there are still no allegations concerning the hackerspace, but in statements towards press people, these terms get mentioned:</p>
<ul>
<li> &#8220;Preparation for Grand Theft&#8221;</li>
<li> &#8220;Computer intrusion&#8221;</li>
<li> &#8220;Breaking of the special knife law&#8221;</li>
<li> &#8220;Fencing &#8220;</li>
<li> &#8220;Breaking alcohol laws&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p>Asked about these allegations, the prosecutor claimed that this is nothing they will press charges on. (or something similar)<br />
<strong><br />
10-12-2009</strong></p>
<p>When we ask the police to return our stuff, they say no as they haven&#8217;t been able to use or understand any of the data they<br />
cloned of any of the disks. For this reason, they decide to keep the machines to bargain with.<br />
(one laptop unrelated to the hackerspace is handed back, but is totally wrecked (one disk is overwritten with garbage data, dvd-player is broken))<br />
<strong><br />
18-12-2009</strong></p>
<p>Police contacts employers and relatives to people in the hackerspace to push them in to give up information on people in hackerspace and what &#8220;passwords&#8221; they may have.<br />
<strong><br />
04-01-2010</strong></p>
<p>Police decides to hand back ink, wifi-antenna, Linksys-router and three out of ten bus cards.<br />
<strong><br />
19-01-2010</strong></p>
<p>Police raids founder of hackerspace <a href="http://grillbit.se">grill-bit</a> (MMN-o) in Swedish city Umeå (and blog host for forskningsavd). During this bust, the police confiscates four servers, one laptop and one external USB-drive. The <a href="http://forskningsavd.se/" target="_blank">forskningsavd.se</a> blog goes offline due to the raid.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.mmn-o.se/2010/01/19/polisen-raidade-mitt-kontor/" target="_blank">http://blog.mmn-o.se/2010/01/19/polisen-raidade-mitt-kontor/</a> (Swedish)<br />
<strong><br />
20-01-2010</strong></p>
<p>The police accuses MMN-o of computer intrusion, prosecutors disagree on the charges but continue with charges.</p>
<p>The charges are based on MMN-o using the Internet connection at his rented office to set up a VPN.<br />
According to the ISP this VPN disturbed the service for other customers since it was &#8220;complex to limit its bandwidth&#8221; and this type<br />
of connection was not agreed upon. Further the ISP refused to contact MMN-o in person since this would &#8220;give him a chance to remove<br />
something illegal before the raid&#8221;.<br />
Here is an article written by MMN-o in Swedish</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.mmn-o.se/2010/01/20/misstanke-om-dataintrang-ansluta-till-internet-olagligt/" target="_blank">http://blog.mmn-o.se/2010/01/20/misstanke-om-dataintrang-ansluta-till-internet-olagligt/</a><br />
<strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong></p>
<p><strong>26-01-2010</strong></p>
<p>Forskningsavdelningen send a letter to the prosecutor to claim back equipment and send a reminder on the legal state of this case.</p>
<p><a href="http://forskningsavd.se/files/docs/prosecutor_letter.doc">http://forskningsavd.se/files/docs/prosecutor_letter.doc</a></p>
<p><strong>1-01-2010</strong></p>
<p>Police responds with a letter announcing the release of all computers. <strong>YAY</strong></p>
<p>http://forskningsavd.se/2010/02/03/we-sent-a-letter-and-one-week-later-we-got-an-answer/</p>
<p>Current list of missing equiment is:</p>
<ul>
<li>Metal files</li>
<li>Blank keys</li>
<li>Pocket calculator</li>
<li>Lock-picking practice locks</li>
<li>2 key cutters</li>
<li>1 external 2.5″ hard drive</li>
<li>1 backpack</li>
<li>6 RFID cards (Jojo Skånetrafiken) (the cops took 10 of them and have returned 4)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong> Legal implication</strong></p>
<p>Most likely all charges in all of these &#8220;investigations&#8221; will be dropped. Further there is a fair chance that no equipment or data<br />
content will be handed back before it&#8217;s &#8220;useless&#8221;.</p>
<p>All charges that will/may be raised against police will be dropped no matter what they are or how much evidence there is.<br />
<strong><br />
History</strong></p>
<p>You all probably remember the raid of hackerspace Abbenay<br />
(<a href="../2009/09/29/the-situation-at-abbenay-hackerspace/" target="_blank">http://blog.hackerspaces.org/2009/09/29/the-situation-at-abbenay-hackerspace/</a>)<br />
or maybe the raid of the service provider PRQ (when all customer machines where<br />
cdonfiscated) <a href="http://www.thelocal.se/3963/20060601/" target="_blank">http://www.thelocal.se/3963/20060601/</a></p>
<p>This kind of events/mentality has a history older then these recent years.</p>
<p>The current head of IT-police in Sweden, Stefan Kronqvist, made this statement about hackers back in 1984:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>The youngsters, like the so called &#8220;hackers&#8221;, have created their own etic rules where you must break every rule possible. To be the worst is the best. This point of view is a direct copy from America.</em>&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/SHA/shanews1.txt" target="_blank">http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/SHA/shanews1.txt</a></p>
<p>More recently he made this statement, as an argument to why police had decided to put &#8220;<a href="http://thepiratebay.org/" target="_blank">thepiratebay.org</a>&#8221; in the countrywide DNS filter against childporn:<br />
&#8220;<em>The police have documented evidence that child-pornographic content is<br />
hosted at The Pirate Bay</em>&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.114684" target="_blank">http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.114684</a> (Swedish)</p>
<p>These statements set the standard.<br />
<strong><br />
Future</strong></p>
<p><em>&#8220;This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.</em><em>&#8220;</em><br />
We will not be victims, we wil continue we will grow and we will<br />
learn, build, recycle and change!<br />
Forskningsavdelningen means Research Department. &#8220;Forskning&#8221; is the<br />
idea of analyzing circumstances and document them to learn and change<br />
behaviour. Our department are good at this. We are not sad, hurt,<br />
outraged or offended we are innovation we are change we are friendship<br />
and we &#8220;forsk&#8221; our way to the future. We will not excuse our selves<br />
for our curiosity.</p>
<p>Hack on!</p>
<p>// kugg at forskningsavdelningen Sweden</p>
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		<title>Forskningsavdelningen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks back, I had the opportunity to visit Forskningsavdelningen (&#8220;The Research Department,&#8221;) a hackerspace located in Malmö, Sweden. Malmö is a faded port town that suffered enormously from the closing of shipyards and the loss of port traffic in the 1980s. It reminded me a bit of a more charming version of an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks back, I had the opportunity to visit <a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Forskningsavdelningen"><em>Forskningsavdelningen</em></a> (&#8220;The Research Department,&#8221;) a hackerspace located in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malm%C3%B6">Malmö, Sweden</a>. Malmö is a faded port town that suffered enormously from the closing of shipyards and the loss of port traffic in the 1980s. It reminded me a bit of a more charming version of an American rust belt city like Baltimore, or Philadelphia.</p>
<p><a href="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1180548.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-639" title="Vacant lot with blue fence" src="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1180548-300x224.jpg" alt="Vacant lot with blue fence" width="300" height="224" /></a></p>
<p>In recent years, the city has seen an economic recovery, but there&#8217;s still a great deal of vacant industrial property. The Research Department is located inside an old factory and has a very grunge feel to it.</p>
<p>I spoke with OlleOlleOlle, a friendly, articulate hacker with very little of a grunge feel to him. He was nice enough to fill me on the origins and operation of the hackerspace.<br />
<span id="more-625"></span><br />
<strong>Brendan: When did you establish the hackerspace?</strong></p>
<p>OlleOlleOlle: In 2008. August, we got the idea, and in September we implemented it.</p>
<p><strong>B: So it only took you a month to find the space?</strong></p>
<p>O: We were lucky.</p>
<p><strong>B: How many people were involved in the founding?</strong></p>
<p>O: Three or four, starting, or saying &#8220;We&#8217;re going to do this.&#8221; We had met, and then we said &#8220;well, I have a friend&#8230;&#8221; and &#8220;I have a friend, too!&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>B: So did you guys know each other before this? Did you become a group of friends because you wanted to do this? Or were you a group of friends who then decided to start a hacklab?</strong></p>
<p>O: I think we became friends. Some of us had met before, in previous consultations. There&#8217;s a Linux pizza evening in town that was instrumental in two people meeting. And, well, this thing has met a lot of friendship.</p>
<p><a href="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1090508.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-635" title="Safety flasher" src="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1090508-300x224.jpg" alt="Safety flasher" width="300" height="224" /></a></p>
<p><strong>B: Where&#8217;d you get this idea for the hackerspace? What made you want a physical space for this?</strong></p>
<p>O: That was Keoges&#8217; idea. He said, &#8220;I&#8217;ve heard some things. Look at this website, there&#8217;s a podcast, and there&#8217;s <a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Documentation">PDFs and instructions on how to do it.</a>&#8221; And then he said, &#8220;I also have a space.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>B: So what exactly is the deal with the space?</strong></p>
<p>O: It&#8217;s in a factory. The factory is rented. It&#8217;s a cultural center, and the people who run it do it communally. If you get &#8216;activated&#8217; there, you can say, well, I want to be active with cleaning up. Or, you come there and say &#8220;I wanna be in the big meeting&#8221;&#8211;you&#8217;re in the big meeting.</p>
<p><strong>B: So you approached them and said, &#8216;&#8221;we&#8217;d like to be a hacklab in your cultural center&#8221;?</strong></p>
<p>O: Precisely like that. We actually came and we tried to impress them with a 3-point program.</p>
<p><strong>B: A powerpoint presentation?</strong></p>
<p>O: We had written it on a big piece of cardboard. We just pulled it out, and said, &#8220;Well first we wanna work for&#8211;like, there&#8217;s this thing about &#8216;nature commons&#8217; in Sweden&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>B: Oh! I think I heard about that, is that the thing where you get to camp whereever you want, because of world war II?</strong></p>
<p>O: Well, not so much, at all, because of the war, but you get to camp whereever you want for one night. You don&#8217;t disturb; you don&#8217;t destroy. Leave naught but footprints, take nothing but pictures. So that kind of slogan is very ingrained with Swedish people, and so when we invoked that, we said we want <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_public_access_to_the_wilderness#Sweden">&#8220;<em>allemansrätt</em>&#8220;</a> for electronics and technology, and whatever else&#8211;science&#8211;you can think of. So we summed it up as &#8216;digital natural commons&#8217; or something like that. We had that, and we had &#8216;reuse and recycling&#8217;.</p>
<p><strong>B: Of electronics and technology?</strong></p>
<p>O: Yeah, and  I think &#8216;sharing&#8217; was the third point.</p>
<p><strong>B: So that was in the beginning of September?</strong></p>
<p>O: Yeah.</p>
<p><strong>B: And after your presentation, they were pretty much like, &#8216;welcome aboard&#8217;?</strong></p>
<p>O: Exactly like that.</p>
<p><a href="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1090504.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-634" title="Equipment rack" src="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1090504-300x224.jpg" alt="Equipment rack" width="300" height="224" /></a></p>
<p><strong>B: How long did it take to actually get the space to a place where it felt like a hackerpace? Where there was stuff there to mess with? How much time was spent just finding stuff and moving stuff?</strong></p>
<p>O: I think it would take around 3 weeks of constant activity. Four or five times a week we&#8217;d be there cleaning, or picking things up, or gathering furniture.</p>
<p><strong>B: How much time and effort goes into the space now?</strong></p>
<p>O: Per week?</p>
<p><strong>B: Sure, per week.</strong></p>
<p>O: Let&#8217;s say I&#8217;m there for a full sitting of 4 hours, on Tuesday night. We have meetings every Tuesday night. We start at 6 and we go on until it&#8217;s boring, or you have to go. It&#8217;s four or five hours, usually. And, maybe I do something on another day, two hours, maybe. Because it&#8217;s fun. It&#8217;s also about friendship: you meet people, and you wanna hang out with them. And that mixes in with the &#8216;doing stuff&#8217;.</p>
<p><strong>B: That sorts of segues into the next question: Where do you get the motivation, and what are you personally getting out of it?</strong></p>
<p>O: I get support for whatever weird stuff I&#8217;m cooking up. Someone that knows what I&#8217;m talking about is listening. Support and encouragement, those are the main functions.</p>
<p><strong>B: What are you into? Are you more of electronics hacker? Because you mentioned you do software in your daytime secret identity.</strong></p>
<p>O: Electronics for me is learning lots of things. I learn the first 80% of something with hardware, I learn the last 20% in software. Because I work with it, so getting <em>best</em> at software is not as interesting as getting <em>better</em> at electronics. Instead of striving for the last excellence, I&#8217;d like to be better at actually doing some things. Also, it&#8217;s <em>fun</em> to do things with your hands.</p>
<p><a href="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1170533.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-637" title="Speakers" src="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1170533-300x224.jpg" alt="Speakers" width="300" height="224" /></a></p>
<p><strong>B: So how do the bills get paid for the hackspace? You said the factory&#8217;s rented? How does that work?</strong></p>
<p>O: They [the community center people] do cultural events, and they make money on the cultural events. So they pay the rent. We volunteer at the events and do other auxiliary stuff. Perhaps we buy a vacuum cleaner, or some other one-off thing. We&#8217;re formalising our commitment to being useful by, for example, having courses, and then having the people who go to the courses pay a little sum of money.</p>
<p><strong>B: Can you say a little bit of the organizational structure of the space?</strong></p>
<p>We&#8217;re big on consensus. We haven&#8217;t had any important economic transactions that haven&#8217;t been gifts, or potluck gifts. So I&#8217;m trusting everyone else by buying this cool thing, and I basically still own it, but I&#8217;m putting it here for people to use. But everyone knows I gave it it, so I rock. So we have not had to have any sort of &#8220;Let&#8217;s do this,&#8221; or &#8220;Let&#8217;s not do that,&#8221; we&#8217;ve steered clear of that.</p>
<p><strong>B: What if there were a [non-financial] dispute about what do with one of the rooms at the hackerspace? Would you just argue it out?</strong></p>
<p>O: Well we&#8217;re very un-argumentative people, and we would talk about it, but we don&#8217;t have a formal process.</p>
<p><strong>B: Do you think the goals or the uses of the space have changed from what you originally imagined them to be?</strong></p>
<p>O: Well, we have not changed our very simple mission: that there should be a place for the tools and toys that are too big for my apartment; a floor upon which to be able to spill. It&#8217;s there, and it&#8217;s a working, functional thing. Lofty goals? No.</p>
<p><strong>B: What were some of your favorite projects? Was there anything particularly frustrating that didn&#8217;t get done?</strong></p>
<p>O: Things don&#8217;t get <em>don</em>e. Things get experimented on; we move on to the next thing. We are very unproductive! We cancel very many projects. We start very many projects.</p>
<p><strong>B: What are your favorite projects that have been started?</strong></p>
<p>O: One of the coolest experiences was &#8220;Let&#8217;s build a jukebox,&#8221; a four people sat around and said, &#8220;Yeah! Let&#8217;s do that!&#8221; and we had four completely, completely different visions of what a jukebox is, how to build it, and what its features should be.</p>
<p><strong>B: So did four jukeboxes get built? Or did one Frankenjukebox with a bajillion features get built? What happened?</strong></p>
<p>O: A lot of long, hard conversation, which turned into ZERO jukeboxes! It was a very interesting exercise in design discussion.</p>
<p><a href="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1170539.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-638" title="Box o' stuff" src="http://hackerspaces.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p1170539-300x224.jpg" alt="Box o' stuff" width="300" height="224" /></a></p>
<p><strong>B: Are there any recurring events or workshops that you hold regularly, other than the weekly meetings?</strong></p>
<p>O: Nope. Not yet. We&#8217;re planning two courses, which are Basic Electronics and Introduction to Microcontrollers. These are two study groups that we&#8217;ll launch as soon as we have a member list for them.</p>
<p><strong>B: How much interest is there? How many people are you expecting?</strong></p>
<p>O: On the mailing list, there are about 35 interested people, and we average about 7 people on our Tuesday meetups. Our meeting structure is quite simple. </p>
<p><strong>B: Do you have the hardware necessary to teach the course? The microcontrollers, for example.</strong></p>
<p>O: You would get information about what you should acquire to be able to complete the course. It&#8217;s a group effort to make everyone knowledgeable about microcontrollers, and if somebody brings a <a href="http://www.picaxe.us/picaxe-links.html">Picaxe</a>&#8211;Picaxe is a brand of microcontroller&#8211;or an <a href="http://www.arduino.cc/">Arduino</a>, or something else, that thing gets included in the course syllabus. It&#8217;s not like, here is a 101 plan, stand here and consume. It&#8217;s more, you and we produce this thing, and when we move on, it moves on.</p>
<p><strong>B: If you could make a wish for your hackerspace, what would it be?</strong></p>
<p>O: That we gender-equalize in 2009.</p>
<p><strong>B: What kinds of things are you doing to try to <a href="http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/ten_easy_ways_attract_women_your_free_software_project">bring more women into the community?</a> Just generally trying <a href="http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_17/109-OMG-Girlz-Dont-Exist-on-teh-Intarweb-1">not to be jerks?</a></strong></p>
<p>O: Yeah, that&#8217;s our basic plan: Don&#8217;t be scary to women. And, we&#8217;re succeeding at that, but we haven&#8217;t &#8220;marketed&#8221; our group at all. But if you&#8217;ve heard of the concept of a hackerspace and <a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces">you go to a list to find your country</a>, and that country is possibly Sweden, and you live in Malmö, you&#8217;re in for a good surprise. That&#8217;s kind of how, actually, people found that when we said &#8216;We&#8217;re making a bus trip to Berlin, to the <a href="http://events.ccc.de/congress/2008/">25C3</a>,&#8221; and then people found it. I guess they typed in their town, and Berlin and that conference. So web presence has its perks, but it doesn&#8217;t solves &#8220;any of the above&#8221; problems. It doesn&#8217;t help bring any girls in. So outreach events will be thought up in an organic way. We&#8217;re not here to save the world. We&#8217;re here to have fun. And I would like to share the fun with my female friends, too.</p>
<p><strong>B: Cool, thanks for talking to me.</strong></p>
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